Bill Gross: Too Much Debt, Too Many Zombie Corporations, Low Interest Rates Destroy Pension System

In an Bloomberg Television interview Bill Gross of Janus Capital spoke with Bloomberg Television’s Trish Regan about the outlook for Federal Reserve policy, the U.S. economy and his objectives at Janus Capital.

Key Quotes

  • “Not even thin gruel is being offered to our modern-day Oliver Twist investors. You have to pay to come to the dinner table and then sit there staring at an empty plate.”
  • “The interest rate can’t be raised substantially even over the next two to three years.”
  • “The US has escaped the liquidity trap that euroland and Japan are in. But, not necessarily for all time.”
  • “[Low interest rates] keeps zombie corporations alive because they can borrow at 3 and 4 percent, as opposed to the 8 or 9 percent. It destroys business models. It’s destroying the pension industry and in the insurance industry.”
  • “ultimately, [low interest rates] destroy the capitalistic model at the margin. Instead of investing in the real economy, [corporations] can now simply borrow at close to 0 percent and buy their own stocks, which yield 2 or 3 percent on a dividend basis and provide a return of 6 or 7 percent on an earnings to price ratio basis.”

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